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Your Q&A Forum

Here’s a great place to ask your questions and have them answered — which will greatly help other cellular window shade owners and pre-owners!

We’re going to start off this forum with a timely question that came through our order lines a few days ago:

Q: Can I use a traditional shade, with side tracks, in a skylight application?

A: Unfortunately, the design of the traditional shade leaves the shade fabric vulnerable to sagging when used in a skylight application. The Balcony (Skylight) shades are specifically designed — with retainer tracks — to keep this from occurring. As well, there are three rails to the skylight system: the top rail and bottom rail are attached to the window opening with brackets, while the middle rail rides up and down to open or close the shade. The bad part of this scenario: No tax credit for “retainer tracks”; see your tax expert to learn more about the energy credit on shades with ”side tracks”.

Q: Is it okay to cut the strings/cords (of a “standard” shade) above the child-safety “equalizer” box? I simply can’t get the knots undone!

A: Oh, please don’t cut the strings! The length of the string is what tells the shade when it is fully extended (ie, all the way down). By making the cords shorter, you will be shortening the length of your shade! The only remedy then: To have the shade restrung… (which, for most people, will mean sending the shade in for repair).

Q: With CASEMENT windows, can I use side tracks and still get beyond the locks and cranks?

A: Great question! The ComforTrack side track system does have a certain tolerance for window depth: minimum inside mount depth of 1½ inch, while a flush inside mount requires at least 1 7/8 inch. But do keep in mind any obstructions, like locks and cranks — and measure your window depth accordingly. You may be happy to hear that the long-handled cranks are now a thing of the past! Take a look at T-handle options.

UPDATE, November 2011: See the Blog Post on Cranks, Depth and Side Tracks for more on this subject.

Q: The windows behind my cellular window shades are experiencing condensation. Help!

A: Condensation is the moisture that appears when water vapor hits a cold surface, like your windowpane. It is true that condensation can develop on the window behind a cellular shade. This is a testament to the fact that the shade is working! The warm air in the room is not reaching the window and it will develop condensation that may even freeze over. Occasionally wiping the moisture away and treating/sealing any wooden window frames will help prevent damage to your windows over time. Properly caulking windows will provide an added seal to your window openings. Remember that condensation happens regardless of the window treatment. Luckily light filtering cellular shades can get wet without damaging the fabric. We recommend mounting any cellular shade approximately 1-4 inches away from the window glass, so it will not be saturated with the condensation and does not rub on the window frame. If condensation is a concern for you, you can opt for the top down/bottom up feature. On particularly cold nights lowering the shade from the top down a few inches lowers the dew point behind the shade without sacrificing the energy-saving benefits. If you do not have the option of pulling the top down, lift the bottom rail slightly off the sill — this will facilitate some air movement behind the shade.

A #2: Henri de Marne, a noted specialist writing on problems “About the House” (the name of his newspaper column) addressed this “sweating” windows issue, after a new furnace was installed, with these words: “The old gas furnace … caused a constant renewal of the air in the house, carrying the excessive humidity outside through its flue. …[T]he humidity in the house, no longer being exhausted, is condensing on all cold surfaces. The solution is to reduce the relative humidity (RH) by whatever means is necessary.” He then went on to say that you would NOT want to have a humidifier in use; the homeowner should consider getting rid of “water-loving” plants; to find a way of drying clothes indoors other than air drying on a rack and to make sure the gas/electric dryer is properly vented to the exterior; and to use bathroom and kitchen exhausts (making sure they exhaust to the outside and not to the attic!); and to consider getting a couple room-sized  air-to-air heat exchangers — or even a whole-house air-to-air heat exchanger.

Q: Aren’t all cellular shade fabrics the same?

A: Emphatically NO! Although cell size can vary and this affects insulating efficiency, the most important difference is in how the basic fabric is made. All cellular fabrics are created from the same principle — a non-woven array of polyester fiber, but the construction of the fabric can vary greatly. There are two ways to create this array of fiber: Bonded polyester – You can think of bonded polyester as being made from a process similar to paper. Bonded polyester is less porous, reducing air flow. Furthermore, because our fabric is bonded, particulates that would otherwise get caught in fabric remain on the surface of the shade where they can be vacuumed or dusted off. The second process, Spun lace, can be thought of as being made similar to cotton candy. Spun lace is a soft open weave;  air can pass through, depositing air particulates within the web of fabric. Think of it as being like your car’s air filter. Over time, these deposits reduce the insulating value and the shade becomes “grungy” looking faster. By nature, the spun lace is more difficult to clean. If you have samples of the two fabrics you can easily differentiate by pouring coffee or soda on the fabric to see if it penetrates or runs off and, if bonded polyester, how easily the stain is removed.

Q: Do Cellular Shades have to be BLACKOUT fabric to cut the heat of the sun and insulate well?

A: If you have a window — even more critical, if you have a skylight – with nothing covering the glass, you are currently getting the full strength of the sun’s rays. This may feel nice on a cold day, but once the heat comes you would be glad of a cellular shade! Either LIGHT FILTERING or BLACKOUT fabric will help cut down the glare and the heat of the beating sun. You will notice a big difference straightaway. Is the blackout fabric more insulating: technically, yes; a cellular shade with blackout fabric has an R-value of 4.0 while the light filtering has a 2.8 R-value. But for those who do not want to block out 99% of the light also, you will be AMAZED at how much the light filtering fabric, by cutting the sun’s rays, will likewise cut the heat. Our office gets full sun during the afternoon, so things can heat up pretty quickly. A shade – of either cellular material – pulled down helps immensely.

Q: Regarding the ComforTrack side tracks, I’ve carefully reviewed the instructions and the video on installation; here’s my question:  The left and right tracks are mirror images of each other and I don’t want to install the tracks backwards. The track measures, on one side, 5/8-inch from the “fin” while the other side measure 1/4-inch. Which side should face the window, the long side or the short side?

A: Short answer is, the shorter (1/4-inch) side should be towards the room. That provides more track (the 5/8-inch side) to block the air coming from the window side of the shade. Also, we “notch” the top of our tracks (so they nestle into the headrail area); these notches should, therefore, be at the top on installation — which should help you identify which is the left track and which the right. You will also notice that this way the shade is pretty flush with the track.
For visuals, see our blog page on side tracks.

Q: We noticed after ordering that your skylight shade is constructed in a way that assumes a 90-degree angle between what would be the “sill” and the window itself. (This is what is depicted in the photo on your website). Our skylight’s “sill” area is at a much greater angle (see photo).

A: Thank you for the photo; that is exceptionally helpful!
The skylight shade design — with three rails (the bottom and top rails are attached by brackets into the opening; the middle rail is what enables the shade to be “open” or “closed”) — does assume a flat surface at that top and bottom; also, the top and bottom must be parallel to each other. Creating a “sill” at the proper angle is the solution. The shade does need to be against a “flat”  surface (with 90-degree angles), just as you describe.
You can view a close-up of the bottom rail on the
skylight page.

Q: My windows are very long; when standing next to them, they start at ankle-height and reach over my head! I have your Standard Cord Lock shades, and two Top Down Bottom Up shades. Can I remove the tassel cord and tassel?? Right now, they drag on the floor.

A: Hi! the tassel is there for aesthetics as much as for creating a longer shade pull. We do have one person here, with very similar windows, who much prefers to function the shades by grasping the Equalizer Box (also called a Breakaway Cord Connector).

She removed the tassel completely:

Unsnap the Equalizer Box (this is a child-safety feature: it “breaks” the cord loop should a child or pet become entangled in the loop) and pull out the tassel cord; snap the Equalizer Box back together. It’s that easy!

Q: How can I clean the INSIDE of my cellular shade?

A: We’ve had calls from people who had bugs (spiders, say) trapped within the honeycomb that have withered and died. This could be tricky, depending on the width of the shade. Something quite wide might require a couple people — for theoretically, you can tilt the shade fabric and something like that might slide out. For shades that are fairly narrow a good spray from a can of compressed air might do the trick. Photography shops used to sell small cans - though don’t expect a long nozzle. Harder to recommend putting anything through the shade’s honeycomb: You do NOT want to pierce the fabric.

If any readers have a super way of cleaning the interior of the honeycombs, let us know!

Q: Which “hole” on the SKYLIGHT bracket do I use for installation — I’ve lost my instructions!

A: If you misplace the paper instructions that came with your shade, please do look at our website: We’ve posted all our installation instructions online!
     To answer your question, we’ve this neat little picture which illustrates what NOT to cover with your screw:

Q: I hired someone to install my shades with side tracks. I’m not sure they installed the shades correctly: Is the shade supposed to be behind the “fin” on the side track? I still feel drafts!

A: Always encourage your handyman review the installation instructions, or even view the online video. As this photo illustrates, the shade — which has a routed channel and specially-designed endcaps — slips over the “fin” and actually rides up and down on the side tracks:

This photo also well-illustrates that the wider edge of the side track is facing the exterior; the track is well-covered by the shade, when viewed from the interior.

Q: I have a Continuous Cord Loop Shade; if it is “unequal” — one side is higher than the other side — can I simply lift the shade up and it will equal-out?

A: All of our CellularWindowShades are made to “self-equalize” — even on a Continuous Cord Loop shade, you just push up on the low side or pull down on the low side to “equalize” the level of the shade. If your shade is out of level, and it gets pulled up, sooner or later the shade will have string problems — and a possible breakage — due to one side having more string to pull up than the other side.
       In short, please take a moment to equalize your shade and then pull it up.

next question, please!

14 Responses to "Your Q&A Forum"

Love my shades, for both hot & cold day defense. Mysteriously, some of the strings have become uneven & the shade won’t go all the way down, as the short side limits the descent. How do I “undo” what what was mysteriously done, & prevent that from happening again?

Dear Marian,

Thank you for the question. The shades we build have one continuous string so that all styles (with the exception of cordless and cordless top down bottom up) are SELF-LEVELING!

After you let the shade down, give the string the extra tug to engage the clutch. Pull down on the high side / push up on the low side and your problems should “magically” disappear.

Hi-
Wanted you to know it worked & they are now fixed! Thanks very much for the help.
Marian

I have a bali cordless top down bottom up that is divided into 3 sections. One section won’t go down all the way. It stops about 4 inches from the bottom now. What can I do to fix this? Geni M, mgmetzger@sbcglobal.net

Hi, I answered you over email — hope you rec’d our suggestion for a repair place.

I hope to install cellular shades in our new home. Some of the windows are HUGE. Can you please tell me, is there a limit on the size of cellular shades if they are to continuously open and shut properly. Some of the windows are tall, some are wide and tall, sorry I do not have exact measurements as yet.

Hi, Angie –

You anticipated my main question: How large is large?

With shades that are wide and/or long, we have the Continuous Cord Loop lift option (you can review lift options here: http://cellularwindowshades.com/lift_choices.html. The Continuous Cord is a heavy-duty mechanism, and should the cord loop break, it’s an easy in-home replacement.

Production’s maximum width is 110-inches; but 108-inches in length, for the box, is the UPS maximum — so those extra inches means a shade greater than 104-inches (approximately) must ship FREIGHT. We offer free Standard UPS Ground shipping, but charge for freight (only the actual cost, we never add fees!).

The maximum length is 120-inches; though this does not affect shipping in the way the shade width does, I mention it just so you have the maxes in mind.

If you have in mind to use the ComforTrack side tracks, then the maximum shade width is 96-inches.

CellularWindowShades.com does not advocate the two-on-one (two blinds on one headrail), but suggests extra large expanses be broken down into several smaller shades — if the windows allow that (ie, a mullion is a nice natural “break”.)

We may have some other options for you should your windows be wider and/or longer than what I’ve discussed above. Happy to help once you’ve take a few — even rough — measures.

Thanks for writing!

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I enjoy reading your articles, many thanks….

Thanks for the praise and the comment. Always nice to know people appreciate our efforts! We hope you come back time and again.

Like the website. Just realized my newly purchased comfortrack tracks are ~1/4 of an inch too long for my inside mount. I can think of many ways to trim them (bottom not the notched top side) but wondering if you have any ideas for a nice looking cut. The error was on my end, not the vendors.

Hi, Jay!

Thanks for your thoughts on the site! Much appreciated.

Our Side-Track expert, Bob, has this advise to pass along to you: Use a Chop Saw (Bob’s favorite), or a Band Saw; you want to make a straight cut, yes, on the non-notched side. The secret is to go through the side track very SLOWLY. The material is just brittle enough that a fast cut will cause problems, but a S-L-O-W cut will produce perfect results.

Hope this helps.

By the way, should you need more shades with the ComforTrack side track system, keep in mind to use the SHORTEST length of your three measures.

Measuring Tip to keep in mind: For length: left, center and right are all measured, giving upwards to three measures to choose from: w/o tracks, take the longest length; with tracks, take the shortest length. For Width: top, middle, bottom are all measured, giving upwards to three measures to choose from: always, you take the narrowest width. (If you need to, round DOWN to the nearest 1/8th-inch for cellular shades manufactured by CellularWindowShades.com)

Thanks for the recommendation. I have a compound miter saw I was thinking of using. My length issue was not caused by measurement error. I wanted a tad bit more length make it easier to get a complete seal down low. I simply forgot to think about the side tracks! DUH! Thanks again!

What can I use to dye my day/night shades from mauve to black.I tried Ritz dye,but it doesn’t work.My shades are in great shape,but that pinky mauve has got to go!!! Can anyone offer me any advice?
Thanks alot:) Connie

Hi, Connie –

We’ve let some kids experiment with our shades and found craft paints can sometimes be problematic.

If you have Symphony Shades, which are a bonded polyester fabric, some craftpaints made specifically for fabric may give you what your looking for – but, frankly, I couldn’t imagine trying to apply a paint all over a cellular shade. You mention a day-night shade, and that may be a slightly different animal.

My best advice is to TREAT YOURSELF. Even though the shades are in good shape, you’ve obviously outgrown the color. You may have out-of-the-way windows these shades could grace for a while longer. Shades are difficult, because, being made to order, they fit a specific window; sometimes making a formerly-inside mount shade into an outside mount shade will allow you to place it on a smaller window.

Blog readers may have other ideas. I open the floor to further suggestions!

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